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Date: 6-6-2000

I teach history in England to students aged 11-18. I am afraid only two of the artists in the list: Pieter Breughel and Jan Van Eyck would be looked at in our history lessons. However, I suspect Mercator would be covered in Geography.

Contact: jland@edenham.croydon.sch.uk

Date: 6-6-2000

I'm afraid that your http://users.belgacom.net/ambassadeurs link did not work so I was unable to retrieve your list. However, I am sorry to inform you that in the UK Belgian personalities do not figure in the curriculum. This I must add is not the responsibility of individual schools but rather the Government who determine a fairly rigid curriculum. Belgium is mentioned in Y9 (13-14 year olds) with regards to WW1, and that is about it. Most history now taught in schools is British based. If you have any other queries please do contact me. Any good resources would obviously be welcomed and I'm sure we could work them into the curriculum some how!

Best Regards

Jon Land (Head of Humanities)

School:Malvern Girls' College Malvern

Contact: c.walker@ndirect.co.uk

Date: 12-14-2000

Dear Researchers of Sint-Lodewijk,

I am the Head of the Faculty of Humanities and the Department of History at Malvern Girls' College in Worcestershire, England and I was very interested to receive information about your research into the presentation of famous people from Flanders.

Unfortunately, the history books we use for the periods we study don't deal with the historical figures named on your website; however, I have passed the information on to my coleague who is Head of the Faculty of Arts in case the teachers of art history and music can help you.

This looks like a very worthwhile project - good luck with your research!

Best wishes,

Claire Walker

Contact: ken@hpsl.demon.co.uk

Date: 3-26-2001

The following table shows (Y for yes, - for no mention) whether the people appear in three reference books that I use frequently for historical purposes (I am not, formally, a student of history, I am a retired engineer and student of musical composition). The books are "The Timetables of History" (H), "The Timetables of Science" (S) and "The Timetables of Technology" (T). All are published by Simon and Schuster. In the fourth column (K), I indicate whether I knew of them
before reading your post.

Peter Benoit and Johannes Ockeghem have entries in the Grove Concise Dictionary of Music, another reference book I use frequently. Eddy Merckx was famous in the UK, with even non-sporting people like me having heard of him. I would be interested in hearing about the ones who get four dashes. The persons are:
H S T K
Leo Baekeland - Y Y -
Adrien de Gerlache - - - -
Mercator Y Y Y Y
Ortelius Y - Y -
Adolphe Quetelet - Y - -
Andreas Vesalius Y Y Y Y
Peter Benoit - - - -
Pieter Breughel de Oudere - - - Y
Hendrik Consience - - - -
James Ensor Y - - -
Victor Horta - - - -
Hans Memlinc Y - - Y
Johannes Ockeghem - - - Y
Constant Permeke - - - -
Pieter Paul Rubens Y - - Y
Jan van Ruysbroeck - - - -
Jan Van Eyck Y - Y Y
Pater Damiaan - - - -
Jansenius + - - +
Eddy Merckx - - - Y
Jean-Luc Dehaene - - - -
Graaf Lamoraal van Egmont * - Y Y
Wilfried Martens - - - ?
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* only as eponymous hero of Goethe's play and Beethoven's music; T refers to him (spelling Egmond) for his land drainage initiatives.
+ entry for theologian Cornelius Jansen, of whom I had heard before, but nothing under your spelling; is this the person you meant?
? I think I remember hearing of him when he was Prime Minister.
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Ken Moore
ken@hpsl.demon.co.uk
Web site: http://www.hpsl.demon.co.uk/